Wales' veteran flanker Martyn Williams has some bad memories of previous trips to Twickenham to face England.
Wales flanker says horror days are now gone
Martyn Williams is hoping to keep the horror days a distant memory when Wales get their RBS Six Nations campaign underway at Twickenham.
The flanker will win his 92nd cap against England on Saturday but the 34-year-old still remembers when the visitors used to struggle at rugby HQ.
When Wales won the Grand Slam two years ago they recorded their first victory at Twickenham since 1988 - with results in between not going so well.
England scored 328 points during that time in what were very one-sided fixtures including Williams debut, when the team were beaten 60-26.
Difficult place
He said: "My first game in the Six Nations was against England and we lost 60-26.
"There were other times when we lost by 50 points. They were that much fitter, stronger and faster than us - they were miles in front off the field as well as on the field.
"Then, it was a really difficult place to visit because you knew you were on a hiding when you travelled there.
"Those days are well and truly behind us. We went there two years ago with a lot more experience in our side and played well.
"To achieve our first win there for 20 years was nice, as well as getting that monkey off our backs. But it is still a difficult place to go.
"They are very strong there, and they have a lot of boys back from injury. Not many sides win at Twickenham, especially in the Six Nations.
"Look at what they did to France last year (England won 34-10). It was great for us two years ago, but that's in the past now.
"They are missing a few in the front row, but you look at the back five and it is hugely influential with loads of experience.
"Whenever you play England up front, it's one of the toughest games you will play in all year."
