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Soccer Saturday: Le Tiss, Merse, Thommo and Charlie reflect on the 3pm kick-offs

The Soccer Saturday boys look at defeats for the Manchester clubs and another win for Hull...

Charlie Nicholas on the root of Man United's problems

Paul Merson on West Ham's loss at Hull

Hull 1-0 West Ham: Read our match report here "West Ham had a stonewall penalty - you don't get penalties more stonewall than this - when there was a handball and they pushed on second half and made chances so while they lost and can't score away from home, they will be sat on the coach thinking: 'If we keep on playing like that, we'll be alright'. If Andy Carroll (pictured) had been playing, they would have won the game with the amount of crosses they put into the box, but he isn't playing and they need to pick up points without him because they are dropping down the table quickly. Hull defend like Steve Bruce used to where they dive in front of things and break things down, while I also thought Robbie Brady was very good."

Phil Thompson on in-form Southampton

Southampton 2-0 Crystal Palace: Read our match report here "There are worrying signs for Palace who are not creating enough but Southampton were very good; they weren't hammering away and creating chances but they now have four consecutive clean sheets. They look a very good Premier League outfit - but Palace don't look like they've got enough. There was a penalty shout when Marouane Chamakh went into the box and Artur Boruc (pictured) went down as Chamakh went past him, but Chamakh threw himself to the ground and tried to drag his legs into Boruc."

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