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Last Updated: 12/08/10 12:14pm
Martin Tyler's stats and facts column is back for another season!
Every week he will be here to offer you statistical gems to make your day, impress your mates and, on occasion, to settle the odd bet.
Sky Sports' voice of football and his back-up team of experts are here to answer your questions and queries on all things statistical and historical from the beautiful game.
SHIELD AND SUCCESS?
Hi Martin! My question is how many times has the losing team in the Charity/Community Shield game gone on to win the league? Andrew Seymour (Aston Villa fan)
MARTIN REPLIES: The omens aren't good for this year's beaten Community Shield team - Chelsea - Andrew. Since the start of the Premier League in 1992/93, the losing side in the Community Shield has gone on to lift the league title on only five occasions out of 18 seasons.
On three occasions that accolade belonged to Chelsea's conquerors at Wembley on Sunday, Manchester United. The Old Trafford outfit managed the feat three times in a row after three Community Shield defeats from 1998-99 to 2000-01 inclusive.
United lost the 1998 Community Shield 3-0 to Arsenal but went on to win the Premier League title, beating Arsenal into second place. They repeated the feat the following season when they lost the 1999 Community Shield 2-1 to Arsenal but won the Premier League title, beating the Gunners into second place again. Chelsea then beat United 3-0 in the 2000 Community Shield only for United to bounce back and win the league ahead of Arsenal.
The Gunners did manage to turn the tables in 2003/04 by winning the title after losing to Manchester United on penalties in the 2003 Community Shield. The 'honour' of being the first team to win the Premier League after tasting defeat in the Community Shield belongs to Blackburn who finished as top dogs in 1994/95 after losing 2-0 to Manchester United in the Community Shield courtesy of goals from Eric Cantona and Paul Ince.
But before United fans get too excited, the omens aren't great for Community Shield winners either. Only six of the 18 Community Shield winners in the Premier League era have gone on to win the title later that season (Man Utd in 1993/94, 1996/97, 2007/08 & 2008/09 and Chelsea in 2005/06 & 2009/10).
PLAYING THE SQUAD GAME
Hi Martin, Love the column with the Opta stats and I know it's very early for this season's stats but I was wondering how many players did each club use last season? Thanks, Andrew
MARTIN SAYS: I can tell you that the team that used the most players last season was the team that finished rock bottom, Portsmouth. They used 33 different players throughout the campaign.
They were (in order of most appearances to fewest): Piquionne, Wilson, O'Hara, James, Brown, Mokoena, Kanu, Boateng, Ben-Haim, Finnan, Borre, Dindane, Belhadj, Kaboul, Yebda, Mullins, Utaka, Webber, Hreidarsson, Smith, Basina, Diop, Owusu-Abeyie, Rocha, Hughes, Begovic, Ashdown, Sowah, Kranjcar, Nugent, Ward, Distin, Ritchie.
Man City used 31 players from their expensively-assembled squad, while last season's top four - Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal and Tottenham - used exactly 30 players each.
The sides that used the fewest players were Aston Villa and Stoke, who used just 23 players each during the whole of the Premier League season. However, every other side used 25 or more.
Players used by each side in the Premier League 2009/10:
31: Man City
30: Arsenal, Chelsea, Hull, Man Utd, Liverpool, Tottenham, West Ham
29: Fulham, Wolves
28: Blackburn, Everton, Sunderland
25: Birmingham City, Bolton
23: Aston Villa, Stoke
Remember, even though the 25-man squad rule has been brought in this year, clubs are allowed to use any number of players under the age of 21 on top of their submitted 25-man lists. Eight players on that list must be "homegrown" in the Premier League - or 10 in the Football League.
Dear Martin. I'm excited about Manchester United's new signing Javier Hernandez and I reckon he could be a really good player for us in the next few years. But would he become the first Mexican to score in the Premier League? Chris W (Man Utd fan)
MARTIN SAYS: The Premier League has not been graced by many Mexican players. Indeed, according to our records Hernandez will become only the sixth Mexican to play in the Premier League - and could become the fourth Mexican to score a goal here. Four of those six actually played for Mexico against England at Wembley before the World Cup...
Here are the details of the other Mexican players to play in the Premier League.
Jared Borgetti (Bolton, 2005-06): The Premier League's first Mexican player appeared in 19 Premier League games for Bolton, scoring two goals. The first came in a 2-0 win over Man City and the second in a 4-1 win against Charlton.
Nery Castillo (Man City, 2007-08): Castillo played seven Premier League games for City on loan in 2008 and did not score.
Giovani Dos Santos (Tottenham 2008-present): The midfielder made seven Premier League appearances, but failed to score and was loaned out to Galatasaray last season.
Carlos Vela (Arsenal, 2008-present): Vela has made 25 Premier League appearances for the Gunners and has scored twice; once against Portsmouth in May 2009 and once against Fulham last season.
Guillermo Franco (West Ham, 2009-10): In terms of goals, Franco is the most successful Mexican import, having netted five times in his 23 Premier League appearances for the Hammers.
As a Blackpool fan I'd be interested to see how often the play-off winners stay up the next season. Also, has a team ever finished as low as sixth in the Championship and stayed up in the Premier League? Nick P (Blackpool fan)
MARTIN SAYS: In the 18 Premier League seasons to date, the previous season's play-off winners have been relegated 11 times, so on that basis the odds are stacked against Blackpool. Indeed, in seven of those seasons the play-off winners have finished rock bottom of the table.
However, the good news for Blackpool fans is that when a team has finished sixth in the second tier and gone up through the play-offs, then more often than not they stay up.
A side has been promoted to the Premier League after finishing sixth on five previous occasions: Blackburn in 1992, Leicester in 1996, Crystal Palace in 1997, Crystal Palace again in 2004 and West Ham in 2005.
Of those sides, Palace suffered the drop on both occasions, but the other three survived. Indeed they all finished in the top half! The table below will explain it all:
Play-off winners survival rate in the Premier League:
|Season||Play-Off winners||Position in second tier||Relegated next season?||Position in PL|
Dear Martin. I'd be interested to know which past and present player has scored the most goals in opening games of the season. It might help me to decide where to put my money at the weekend. Cheers, Bruce (West Ham fan)
MARTIN SAYS: The boys at Opta have helped us out with this question and when it comes to opening-day fixtures, you may not be surprised to hear Alan Shearer holds the Premier League record with eight, followed by his former England strike partner Teddy Sheringham with seven.
Scored five or more goals on the opening fixture of a Premier League season:
8: Alan Shearer
7: Teddy Sheringham
6: Louis Saha
5: Dennis Bergkamp, Kevin Campbell, Robbie Fowler, Michael Owen, Les Ferdinand, Frank Lampard
As for the current crop, the top man is Everton's Louis Saha who has netted six times on the opening day. Frank Lampard and Michael Owen have hit the net in the first game of the season five times:
Top opening-day goalscorers (still playing in Premier League):
1. Louis Saha (6)
2. Frank Lampard (5)
3. Michael Owen (5)
4. Alan Smith (4)
5. Darren Bent (4)
6. Wayne Rooney (4)
WORLD CUP WINNERS
Two Liverpool players won World Cup winner's medals this summer (Torres and Reina). Excluding 1966, has an English club ever provided more World Cup winners than that? Simon (Liverpool)
MARTIN SAYS: If you exclude 1966, then not very many World Cup winners have been contracted to English clubs at the time of victory. As you mention, Fernando Torres and Jose Reina of Liverpool were successful with Spain this year alongside Arsenal's Cesc Fabregas and David Silva, who was officially contracted to Manchester City when the final took place.
Apart from that, you need to look at France's World Cup-winning squad of 1998. Arsenal provided TWO players in Emmanuel Petit and Patrick Vieira, so they match Liverpool's tally from this year. Chelsea's Frank Leboeuf also played in that game.
You could also make a case for reserve goalkeeper Bernard Lama, who was contracted to West Ham at the start of the 1998 World Cup, but whose deal had expired by the end of the tournament. He would eventually move on to Paris Saint-Germain.
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