Brendan Rodgers thinks his experience at Reading was crucial in his development as a manager as he looks ahead to what he hopes will be a successful career at Liverpool.
After guiding Watford away from the Championship relegation zone he was head-hunted by the Royals, but just five months into the season he left in December 2009 after a run of disappointing results.
It was not long before Rodgers was back in work, however, taking over at Swansea the following summer and the success he had there in taking the club to the Premier League earned him his chance at Liverpool.
But the 39-year-old is far too realistic to believe he has made it as a top-level manager and still looks back on his ill-fated spell at Reading as a pivotal moment.
"I probably became more clinical after that," Rodgers said. "I went in there looking to change things too quickly.
"I went in thinking, 'right, the club want a new vision, a new philosophy' and I felt if I stripped it down quickly and let it build then that would be OK.
"But what I realised after that was you are still in the business of winning.
"You talk about football, creativity and invention, but you have to win games - as simple as that.
"That was something very important to me on reflection when I came away from Reading.
"When I went in to Swansea, I knew very well I could still work with the same philosophy and identity, but I would have to get to the end point quicker.
"That allowed me to round off everything I do and how I work with players and it brought me success at Swansea.
"That six months at Reading over the course of a nearly 20-year period coaching and managing has been great learning for me.
"Hopefully that will be the defining moment of my career."